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Date: Thu Jul 19 2001 - 09:19:00 EDT


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From: A. M. Finke [mailto:twobarb@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 3:16 PM
To: <a href="/group/PipingDesign/post?postID=Ful1IeA66AoScWk84ICK6p-1OlkR5EJpqFFKqycJBcBCvzctE6kLCZChHEhz-e4-n8Fjz3J2jQMWQ0v2la9dw1ZktB0">PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com</a> Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] Just a thought

laser to fitup bfw piping?
last time ive use the laser is to check to coupling alignment (double reverse) of a motor and compressor and verify the rails of the overhead bridge crane. Level will just be fine to ensure proper piping fitup and theodolite or transit will be good enough to establish a benchmark. Why use
laser when the PFI allows u some fabrication and construction tolerance (as
high as 1D in some cases. The service agreement will normally have a scope
of work and some acceptance criteria speeled out that should be the basis for a claim. If your off the criteria, then contractor has an obligation to
correct the deficiency.

The laser I was speaking of was a Visible line rotary laser level. The floors in beef plants are rarely if ever poured level and the buildings (due to many four or five day additions squeezed in two two days) are normally out of square so I always like to start with some good bench marks.
As far as criteria went there was absolutely none. On Tuesday, July 17, 2001, at 09:12 AM, Gerardo Delgado wrote:

Engineer No. Its just a title the guy simply worked his way up the ranks from one plant to another over the past twenty years. They figure these people have enough experience in the way things are done that they call them engineers.
As far as dumping him I normally deal withe the energy supervisor at the plant and have little or no contact with him. Also I have the Engineers at corporate on my side nine times out of ten. I do however like to tell the story to help illustrate how screwed up some things can be.

> That was some kind of Plant Engineer. As a matter of fact, I donīt
> think he is
> an engineer. He was probably some mentally disturbed son-of-a-gun that
> escaped
> Danteīs inferno. You did your work right A.M., so dump that piece of 
> dirt out
> of your life and keep up the good work. By the way, the stuff about the
> level
> out of level was funny! Iīm sure you donīt think is funny.
>
> Gerardo
>
>

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