RE: Estimating Page & Nation Gulf Publishing

From: <SARE>
Date: Thu Oct 18 2001 - 08:38:00 EDT

Tom
the latest Rcihardson ive got is 1991. here's the address.

Richardson Engineering Services Inc
PO Box 1055
San Marcos, California 92069
714:489-5806

Full Title: The Richardson Rapid Contruction Cost Estimating System.

We've purchased the 4 volumes. You can also purchase the sotware. Process Piping is in Volume No.3.

> ----------
> From: Tom Ellery[SMTP:tellery@hblpipe.com]
> Reply To: PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 18 October, 2001 3:30 PM
> To: PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PipingDesign] Estimating Page & Nation Gulf Publishing
>
> Ralph,
>
> My name is Tom Ellery. I am a Piping Designer for a Process Piping
> Construction company in Detroit, MI called
> Hoyt, Brumm, & Link. Since, we are in Detroit, we do a lot of
> Design/Build
> work in Automotive Plants. Every once in a while H.B.& L. will ask us
> designer's to help out our estimating department. I would be very
> interested in the book you mention in this email. Where can I get a copy
> of
> this book.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
> HBL Engineering
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: SARE, RALPH H. [mailto:SARERH@YANPET.SABIC.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:54 AM
> To: 'PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [PipingDesign] Estimating Page & Nation Gulf Publishing
>
>
> ive used the 1978 Pipeline rules of thumb handbook by Ed Mcalister also by
> Gulf. Since tthe early 80's i have switched to Richardson Process Plant
> Const'n Estimating Standard. Wage, mat'l cost and manhours are all based
> in
> work done in USA (unionized).
>
> Richardson gives the following figure tofield butt weld an 8 NPS
> 304SS Sch10S is 8.4 mhrs
> CS 40Std is 7.8 mhrs.
>
> Normally you'll go for a tig root followed by a stick for fill and cap for
> SS plus Argon purging. CS will normally be completed using stick (this may
> explain it). We've taken sort of a time and motion study to establish our
> baseline (our workshop welder versus contractor) and our productivity is
> slightly off by 10-15% compared to USA must be the weather -extreme and
> the
> fact that the group consisted of different nationalities.
>
> > ----------
> > Subject: [PipingDesign] Estimating Page & Nation Gulf Publishing
> >
> >
> > One of the areas of concern I have with the
> > publication is that in the alloy section the are %
> > adders for this type of piping. I fail to see how
> > handling DN 200 alloy pipe attracts a 40+% adder to
> > carbon steel?
> >
> > Anyone experienced with using this publication is
> > invited to return constructive comments. Is there any
> > other publication worth using?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Geoff Stone
> >
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