Re: Weld to weld clearence.

From: <mechengr1977>
Date: Thu Nov 14 2002 - 22:58:00 EST

pipe with a wall thicness of under 3/4 inch will normally not require a PWHT (unless service/material requires it - like caustic or Cr-Mo). The HAZ is no wider than 6 mm. Both could not be the reason for maintaing a certain min. dist between the weld joint. ASME Section VIII Div section UG talks about 4t (if i remeber it right, i could be wrong).

having spent a long part of my professinal practice in the shop floor making vessel,storage tanks, heat exhc and pipe spool among others and fixing em at site here's my 2 cents worht of opinion.

  1. to account for the residual stress.
  2. to make the job the pipefitter easy. he'll need a lil space to rig up a clamp or something to line up the joint.
  3. to facilitate NDE - xray and MT.
    • In PipingDesign@y..., Conor Walshe <conor.walshe@a...> wrote:
      > I recall it is a Heat treatment issue, the 50mm is taken from the
      below
      > paragraphs. i.e. twice the 25mm heat affected zone. I recall the
      distance
      > should be 50mm or 5 times the wall thickness.
      >
      > Refer to paragraph: 331.2.6 & 330.1.4, I cannot recall where I
      read the 5xT.
      >
      > But anyway,if the welds are within that distance you need to
      consider heat
      > treatment as the heat affected zones will have overlapped.
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: mapte@t... [mailto:mapte@t...]
      > Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2002 14:23
      > To: pipingdesign@y...
      > Subject: [PipingDesign] Weld to weld clearence.
      >
      >
      > Hi,
      > As a convention the toe to toe distance between two welds (
      circumferential
      > or branch ) on a pipe should be 4 times the pipe wall thickness or
      50 mm (
      > Some say 40 mm ) which ever is greater. Generally this is
      mentioned in the
      > project specifications.
      > The question is where in the piping standards is it written. I
      went through
      > B 31.3 but could not find any.
      > In section VIII , I found the mention but can that be generalised
      for
      > piping ?
      >
      > -Mandar.
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > Texas Flange - a good source for information on industrial
      flanges, all they
      > ask is for referrals for designs they help with.
      > 877-610-8924.
      > www.texasflange.com
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