Re: Make More Mistakes Faster

From: <Paul>
Date: Sun Jan 12 2003 - 03:13:00 EST

But wait! The engineering geeks (not the dweebs that fart around with software code) seem to be making a comeback in broadcast TV!

The US is slowly getting into the concept of breaking and using stuff as a possible TV show!

Which is <gasp> engineering!

Depending on where you are, you might be able to see the following TV shows:

-Junkyard Wars (and its clones)
-Robots beating the crap out of each other (and its clones)
-...and other stuff

Paul, d'oh

> Like it or not, a lot of "design" work involves calculation or tedious
> repetitive work.
>
> On the subject of calculation, Leibnitz wrote:
>
> "It is unworthy of excellent men to lose hours like slaves in the labor of
> calculation which could safely be relegated to anyone else if machines
were
> used."
>
> If some of this work can be automated, then either more time can be freed
up
> to ponder alternative design solutions, or the amount of design resource
> decreased while maintaining a similar quality of design as achieved prior
to
> automation.
> I remember a big fuss when cheap electronic calculators became available.
> Who would be without one now?
>
> When the above is taken into consideration, the question reduces to
> something like " do you think management make stupid decisions?". I think
we
> all know the answer to that.
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Wright [mailto:chrisw@skypoint.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 2:58 PM
> To: ?
> Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] Make More Mistakes Faster
>
>
> >My debate position is that qualified individuals are being replaced with
> >software that can do the same job for the same, or less cost.
> How's this? Qualified individuals are supposedly being replaced by
> software that management imagines, God knows why, can actually do the
> same job. Based on a number of observations, I suspect such management
> imagines that documents, drawings and reports, are the project
> deliverables. Systems which produce documents faster are therefore more
> productive, so the designers go and the software comes in.
>
> In fact he design is the deliverable, and the documents only communicate
> the design. If the design is actually mediocre, but the doc package is
> delivered at less cost, maybe engineering management never hears about it
> and goes on their way thinking they're more productive and any problems
> are poor manufacturing, shoddy materials or corner cutting by
> beancounters. That's a good reason to ask the original question--do the
> tools actually improve the design or simply let engineering departments
> have lower budgets?
>
> Interesting that there was no answer to my question. Do none of thge 500+
> participants on this list really know if they're doing better work with
> computer aided engineering tools? Does anyone care?
>
> Christopher Wright P.E. |"They couldn't hit an elephant at
> chrisw@skypoint.com | this distance" (last words of Gen.
> ___________________________| John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania 1864)
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