Re: New question; blowing out gaskets on PE line; how to stop

From: <alwyn>
Date: Fri May 09 2003 - 12:11:00 EDT

the 1991 ed was a photocopy of the orig. Hens teeth. You'll be very lucky of you find an orig. I've been looking for years and years and have a permanent posting on all the bookstores.

   Evening all,

   I am trying to locate a copy of "Design of Piping Systems" by M.W. Kellogg    There was a also a 1991 edition by John Wiley and Sons Publ

   I have managed to locate a copy in the nearby university library but would    like a copy for myself. I'd like allot of things but would settle for the    book for today...

   Anyone biting?

   Regards

   Conor

   "Steve McKenzie" <Mechproj@xtra.co.nz>    09/05/2003 17:21
   Please respond to PipingDesign

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           Subject:        RE: [PipingDesign] New question; blowing out gaskets
on PE line; how to

   stop

   and a bloody good flange they are too.

   Cheers

   Steve McKenzie

   -----Original Message-----
   From: Geoff Stone DD&D Australia [mailto:blenrayaust@yahoo.co.uk]    Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 12:06 PM
   To: PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] New question; blowing out gaskets on PE    line; how to stop

   Table F was in the British Stand BS 10 before that was superseded. The    Australian Standard AS 2129 still uses the nomenclature. Another standard    AS
   4087 duplicates the falnges but designates them by class. They are    peculiart
   to
   the antipodese.


   BAcking rings from table F ... are these AWWA.. I'm not familiar with    that
   table.

   I once used the appropriate cement for the material and cement welded on    stiffeners the same OD as the joint and circumferentially. Looked horrible    bit
   it worked. Its amazing how chunks of the stuff can be molded right on...    almost
   any shape

     Gents

     Have put in a 250NB (355 OD) PN20 PE slurry line; expected max pressure    16

     bar. Flanged joints are stub flanges, gramophone finish, Table F steel
     backing rings. Gaskets are 3mm reinforced insertion rubber. Have had a
   few
     blowouts at 10 bar as we are not yet up to full output. Bolts were not
   being
     tightened properly but I think the problem is more than that.

     Need a better gasket.

     Have considered:

     No gasket; just tighten her up; the slurry solids might blind off any
   minor
     leaks.
     CAF gasket. Not my favourite as the CAF is probably too hard for the PE
     grooves to get a good bite on.
     Spiral wound or corrugated metal.
     Metal backing ring to rubber: my favourite but where do you buy them?
     Metal ring which cuts into the plastic as the joint is tightened.

     Has anyone had this problem and if so how did they overcome it? No time
   for
     major work to the flange faces, so the solution must be with the gasket
     itself.


     In anticipation

     Thanks

     Steve McKenzie



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