RE: Master Project Stickfile

From: <Steve>
Date: Thu Nov 20 2003 - 15:36:00 EST

Do I detect a nuance of sarcasm?

The paperless world cannot become a reality until they stop making toilet rolls. Computing still has a few advances to make in that area.

Yes, I have had the odd project manager who wishes to keep a second stick. I normally insist he maintains it himself (in the interests of accuracy). After a week of intensive micromanagement, and perhaps a database or two set up, enthusiasm wanes and the second stick invariably falls into disarray.

My main grizzle from a construction perspective is drawing size. Nearly everyone (and I mean 99%) uses A3 repros of the original drawings. However the CAD offices still insist on making the original format A0,A1,B1 or whatever. This can cause scaling difficulties and print too small to read easily. It would appear commonsense to use A3 format on the original drawings . I have raised this on countless occasions but the same rubbish still gets cranked out. What is the resistance to this change?   I cannot accept the fixed cost/effort per drawing argument when using CAD.

Cheers

Steve McKenzie

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Wright [mailto:chrisw@skypoint.com] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:06 AM
To: ?
Subject: RE: [PipingDesign] Master Project Stickfile

>Yes stickfiles are still alive and well.
Goodness gracious--haven't you heard that the world's gone paperless? No more need for hard copy--just computer terminals everywhere. I'm shocked--shocked, I tell you. ;->

>markups can be done
>during the discussion, and it forces on-the-spot agreement.
Stick files work before the power comes on; they're usable after someone spills coffee on them and they don't need some IT droid clucking and fussing over network connections. The only problems I've ever encountered are managers who insist on a second set and can't keep the two versions synched.

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<a href="http://www.skypoint.com/~chrisw">http://www.skypoint.com/~chrisw</a> Received on Thu Nov 20 15:36:00 2003