RE: IN WHICH METHOD IT IS EASY MANUFACTURE

From: <Steve>
Date: Thu Jan 08 2004 - 00:26:00 EST


Nothing wrong with Russian jet fighter planes apart from the electronics and ground control. I have a photo around here somewhere of me looking like a dork while sitting in a MIG25 (I think) cockpit pod at Hanoi. Amazingly it fitted like a glove - I am 6'2". But then again some of the Russkis are big boys.

Cheers

Steve

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From: Paul Bowers [mailto:pbowers@pipingdesign.com] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:13 PM To: <a href="/group/PipingDesign/post?postID=2-PRgRIe5IBtEMPP71wWUz87PzT9LFXw7arD7jsS9uDjx5RQdK02659K3eZ8xiXepVus5OYdXJ4jH-4rHwJmO8QXKkAcKsA">PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com</a> Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] IN WHICH METHOD IT IS EASY MANUFACTURE

> I watched an interesting program on Discovery about the Soviet program to
> reproduce the USAAF B-29 bomber from two intact aircraft which had landed
> in eastern Siberia. Stalin directed that exact copies be made from the
> originals. That meant that all the tubing, sheet metal, fasteners, cotter
> pins, gears, shafting, bearings, fittings and the rest had to be made
> from scratch to US customary sizes. You didn't argue with Stalin. It was
> an enormous job, but they actually did it. I think it was designated the
> Tu-2. They had no tooling of course so they drew everything including
> what would otherwise be standard off-the-shelf parts, and developed the
> tooling after they'd literally taken the planes down to nuts and bolts,
> drawn everything. The Russian team was under incredible pressure from
> Stalin and a number of the project people suffered complete breakdowns
> before the first Tu-2 flew. That must've been what Churchill meant when
> he mention the Russian capacity for suffering...

On the other hand, the T-34 (tank) was a brilliant design, in most ways superior to the best German designs of the day. I don't know how much the designers had to suffer for that one.

Also of note are/were the Su fighters (late 20th century) which always seemed to look like existing American designs with bigger engines and cruder controls.

I think I'm getting of topic.

Paul



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