RE: Fixed Price Quote for Engineering - Thoughts

From: <Hawco>
Date: Thu Jan 15 2004 - 12:12:00 EST

Chris,

I really like what I do – the potential is incredible but the politics …

It’s just not worth the headache - 5 years from now I bet I’m a math teacher.

Paul Hawco

Mechanical Engineer

Neill & Gunter (Nova Scotia) Limited

<a href="http://www.neillandgunter.com">http://www.neillandgunter.com</a> <<a href="http://www.neillandgunter.com">http://www.neillandgunter.com</a>>

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From: Christopher Wright [mailto:chrisw@skypoint.com] Sent: January 14, 2004 7:20 PM
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Subject: RE: [PipingDesign] Fixed Price Quote for Engineering - Thoughts

>The politics of most companies and projects ultimately kill this process.
I'm not surprised. Every idiot move, safety violation and cut corner is also in there. Plus you have to keep up with it for a period of years through layoffs and resignations. Not likely, when you think of how many facilities doon't even have a reliable set of as-built drawings, let alone a record of modifications.

>There was a joke about the Space Shuttle being designed and built by the
>lowest cost bidder - I haven't heard it in years.
No doubt akin to 'an amateur built the ark; the Titanic was built by experts' which is every bit as hilarious. In fact the Titanic was built by experts; the number of lifeboats was a management call. Management also decided against reducing speed through the ice.

Read the following account by Roger Boisjoly. It's just a laugh a minute. <http://onlineethics.org/essays/shuttle/telecon.html>

Christopher Wright P.E. |"They couldn't hit an elephant at <a href="/group/PipingDesign/post?postID=4QeBFWV-tY3yOLkWKGcwzkxtG-osG4F1JkdRFX8j79fmLvqYQj2dz2sP7qVefrWgo1S61sAc4pj2JLq-">chrisw@skypoint.com</a> | this distance" (last words of Gen.

___________________________| John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania 1864)

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Received on Thu Jan 15 12:12:00 2004