Hi Rajendra
I think you may easily be forgiven for the occasional outburst. It did result in a number of responses, with impressive speed.
For what its worth, I think the frustration you are experiencing is not isolated to you and your country; I think its everywhere. Part of engineering, perhaps.
Cheers
Steve
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From: rajendra bajikar [mailto:rajendrabajikar@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:59 PM
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Subject: RE: [PipingDesign] OT: Expat Piping Designers
Dear Group,
My apologies may please be accepted.
Rajendra Bajikar.
Naha Jaydeep SPEL-T1 <Jaydeep.Naha@siemens.com> wrote: Dear Rajendra,
It would really be nice if you wouldn't indulge in writing the sort of mail below, especially in this group thoroughly intended for technical discussions. You may reserve your views to Paul (and anybody else) through personal mails only.
Besides, your topic is highly sensitive....and I even beg to differ from your view points. I wouldn't discuss that anyway here.
With best regards,
Jaydeep Naha.
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From: Nashine A-K SPEL-T1 [mailto:A-K.Nashine@siemens.com]
Sent: 04 March 2004 08:46
To: 'PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [PipingDesign] OT: Expat Piping Designers
Dear Mr. Paul,
I under-stand that this group is to discuss the matters related to piping engineering. Not the Indian attitude or Indian political system. I request that kind of mail attached below should not be floated to entire group or content is to be filtered.
With best regards,
Akash K. Nashine
> SIEMENS
Siemens Power Engineering
INDIA
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From: rajendra bajikar [mailto:rajendrabajikar@yahoo.com]
Sent: 04 March 2004 12:51
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Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] OT: Expat Piping Designers
Dear Paul,
A Butterfly valve manufacturer had a problem with the Gear Actuator for
sizes above 350 mm NB. I knew a Mechanical Engineer of remarkable
achievements who offered to solve the problem, make a working model
(prototype) for a nominal fee of Rs.15,000/- (That is about US$300) only.
The manufacturer asked for a detailed drawing before he could make a
decision. This is the typical Indian attitude. The Engineer is the least
important person in India. Needless to say that the valve manufacturer is a
non technical person. On the other hand, the Doctor who would be "nowhere"
but for the sofisticated instruments designed and made by engineers, is a
highly respectable guy doing brisk "business" and earning through
"referrals".
You are well aware of the Indian Political system. You can not dismiss a worker without serving him a charge-sheet and holding a hearing but you can dismiss the Prime Minister without saying why the dismissal is sought. You may remember that Atal Bihari Vajpayee's government lost a vote of confidance in the Parliament by just One vote. And no reason was given for the "No confidance motion".
I am an Indian and proud of my country and it's heritage. But a group of about 550 MPs are driving this country down the hill and the brakes have already blown out. Needless to say that they don't know what they are doing. The reputation the Indian Standard Mark enjoys is good proof of this.
You are welcome to come to India to enjoy yourself. Looks good on the blue
print - actually non existant.
Regards,
Rajendra Bajikar.
Paul Bowers <pbowers@pipingdesign.com> wrote: Quite a few messages ago I talked about the possibility of westerners moving to India to work (sort of a reverse offshoring).
Cringely's latest column is about this:
<a href="http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040226.html">http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040226.html</a>
Damn, there goes all my hopes to own 2 or 3 5-series new BMWs and a 7-figure beach house. I am deathly afraid of being a lowly-regarded engineering type for the rest of my life and not get glamourous and rich. Ack, I will have failed!
Paul
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