RE: freebies

From: <Al>
Date: Sat Mar 13 2004 - 15:13:00 EST


I have been there and much worse, I figured out why and who profited or suffered nothing.

Making noise (aka bitching) is necessary to bring about change. The solutions are in what I am saying. The starting point is that unless we value what we do, others wont (and dont) if we dont. That includes each other.
The unacknowledged (not sought) efforts (constantly to the people who might effect change) I have made here with misrepresentation have caught hold and starting to have impact. Where there was no action taken less than 4years ago (Tolerance / soft touch policy and mentality??!!) there are now 406 violations being attended to, a number of successes and many new Professional and corporate registrations. Funding has been provided to this area where there was none before.

Most people sit on the fence or leave. Sweeping these issues aside is just perpetuating the problem. Open discussion is essential.eg People need to know the sacrifices you have had to make. Hopefully it makes everybody less cavalier.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Bowers [mailto:pbowers@pipingdesign.com] Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:38 PM
To: <a href="/group/PipingDesign/post?postID=a8u6BBNCuAIbNlab2RVRaO3n6EFgo6nkLOQZ2ZbuT8MzOoOpV1zNzX_iSgD-cEaH472LZ-z-KV3WHVWV7JNYVN9rYREA">PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com</a> Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] freebies

> Before long your time is expected for little or nothing. The
mentatilty
> becomes if you got that done for nothing, why does this cost so much.
YOU
> must be incompetent Or inadequte or something.
> Wake up guys.


Until further notice, pipingdesign.com/.org/.ca is now shut down. This discussion list, too. Yeah, right.

Look, you can't stop "progress", all you can do is stunt things so that you can better cope with reality. Or you can make noise and change things. Have any of you had to sell personal objects, eat noodles 5 days/week and be 6 months behind in rent and deal with those pressures? I have, but pipingdesign.com and this list is still here.

I made a decision to keep this site going no matter what, and that's what I did. That's not to say that there won't be future problems but I am mentally and psychologically prepared to deal with them, having been through the (hopefully) worst.

Engineers fix things, right? So let's see more solutions and less bitching. Get involved with local politics and down the % of lawyers that tend to become political leaders. Think you can handle it? Maybe not, politics is a bitch, but if nobody proposes changes, nothing will ever get done.

Rant on.

Paul



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