Re: Sulphuric acid dilution

From: <George>
Date: Mon Mar 29 2004 - 08:58:00 EST

Jacques:
We specialize in natural gas systems here at Augusta. I don't want to be commercial here on this board, so if you would mail me directly at gmckinney@augustaeng.com, we could see if we have any common areas.

George McKinney

   Does anyone know of an individual or company that are considered to be process specialists in natural gas distribution? My preferred location is Eastern Canada and even better Quebec.

   Thanks for any help.

   Jacques

     Steve:

     we do a lot of pH correction in waste water plants and cooling
     towers.  here are a few things you might consider:
     1>  Commercial grade sulfuric acid generally contains sludge and
     particulate picked up in the acid plant and transportation system.  Design
     your system to either remove or successfully pass these impurities.  This
     causes most problems with positive displacement pumps.
     2> Steel is commonly used for handling concentrated sulfuric acid (greater
     than 90%). The metal is generally considered to be resistant by virtue of
     the iron sulfate film, formed on the surface of the steel as a result of
     the iron/sulfuric acid corrosion reaction. (Initial corrosion rates are
     high until continuity of the iron sulfate film is established.). Those
     areas which are subject to high velocities, such as valve trim and pump
     check valves, are fabricated from alloy components.
     3> Design the system to keep the pipes full up to the point of
     injection.  This will maintain the iron sulfate film mentioned above.  At
     the point of injection, this will not be possible.  Also at the point of
     injection the acid will likely be diluted by the adjacent waste water.  For
     this reason, fabricate the injection piping from plastic, Alloy-20, or
Hast-C.
     4> The pH of the stream will be depressed at the point of injection.  This
     depressed pH can corrode the floor of a concrete basin or structure.  We
     generally install a dilution trough fabricated from marine lumber or
     plastic with a separate source of dilution water.  With the large volumes
     of water involved, heat dissipation is typically not a problem.

     hope this helps.





       At 10:07 AM 3/29/2004 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi Guys
>
>I am looking at a pH correction system for a wastewater treatment
>plant. Occasional alkaline "event" inflows require an acid dosing /pH
>correction system to be installed to keep the downstream bio-systems
>alive and well.
>At present the inflow is around 70l/s minimum. I will need to dose at
>about 10cc/sec based on 98% H2SO4, although for handling reasons this
>will probably be changed to around 75%.
>I envisage "dribbling" the acid into the inflow through a plastic
>quill with no special arrangement made for mixing or heat dissipation.
>However some detail design will be required to validate this approach.
>Before I commence the detail design of the mixing area, I thought it
>may save some time by asking if any of you guys have done this, what
>works, what doesnt etc.
>
>Thanks
>
>Steve
>
>
>
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