Re: 90.08 degree elbow?

From: <Rich>
Date: Tue Sep 21 2004 - 12:13:00 EDT

Sure thing. Moving big things, a fair distance to fake them in. Heck, that doesn't work for me either. We used to call these "cartoons" back when I made drawings for a living.

CAD Systems measure stuff down to 16 decimal places (distances and angles). As you know Pipe fitters measure the same things during assembly down to about a 1/16" (if you're lucky). Its really no CAD trick to tell a 3d modeling system how much misalignment is allowable while connecting two components. By default AutoPLANT allows 1/16" measured at the outside diameters. Since various organizations have their own standard for how much miter is allowed to a butt-welded connection the program provides a way to increase the value as required. I was hoping to hear is there was a defacto standard for this or if some additional requirement appeared during this string.

   On Sep 21, 2004, at 9:20 AM, Rich Scotti wrote:

> Note that this is sent off-list. I notice that you come across
> aggressively on this issue (CAD Software and sloped pipe). Is this a
> topic of some specific concern to you? Do you have an issue with
> AutoPLANT software specifically?

   Didn't mean to be aggressive--just sarcastic. The thread started out    when someone asked about a construction detail to allow for slope. The    flow would turn something like 90.08 deg instead of the theoretical 90    deg, and the question was how to specify a joint like that. Someone    suggested a miter connection as I recall, and depending on the    connection you could easily modify a standard elbow to make a 90.08    turn. I took fairly gentle exception to the notion proposed by someone    that you simply use an AutoCAD trick to give the appearance of a    designed detail, rather than actually doing the design. I still take    exception to CAD tricks like that, because I've had to cope with too    many of them. A CAD representation isn't just a lo0vely picture--it's    intended to communicate design intent, so that the system can be made    in a specific way to accomplish a specific job. Faking design details    like the elbow is just as bad as moving a reservoir to make a building    fit between the reservoir and the road.

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Received on Tue Sep 21 12:13:00 2004

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