Re: Re: Commissioning of aircraft petrol filling station

From: <George>
Date: Tue Oct 12 2004 - 09:04:00 EDT


cckla:
Comments on your pipe cleaning/testing:
My comment on disconnecting the pump is related to my experience with gas compression pipeline testing/commissioning. There, the typical situation is to test piping installations by sections. Compressors/pumps are tested by the manufacturer, and are almost always connected into the system by flanges. So, since they are pre-tested and demonstrated good for the pressure, typical procedure is to test piping up to the pump, with it isolated by valves or blind flanges. This would take care of your concern about damaging the pump. On the piping, I agree with the other users - if possible, go with a gas test, using some inert type gas. If you use water, you will want to have a BIG compressed air source to remove the residue - and if you blow enough air, you will probably pick up a lot of left-over weld scale/dirt/trash, that will help smooth out the start up process. One procedure that I had seen is to open the line at the downstream end, and place a white painted piece of plywood about 2-4 feet from the end. Blow until you stop getting particles on the plywood. Given that you will be moving aircraft fuel, you want to get as much out as possible - what you clean out at this point will help on filter life and maintenance on start-up.

George McKinney

   Dear Mr George McKinney,

   We are going to test for its operation, icluding pump, piping and tank. At    the same time, we also do for leak test. I understand that we can dry the    piping by purging the piping with nitrogen gas. But, could we do the same    when the pump is connected to the piping ? I afraid it will damage the    internal parts of the pump. By using water as a test medium, we are hoping    that the whole system can be totally dried without leaving any problems to    the system in the future.

   Please guide me.

   Thank you.

   Regards,
   cckla

>
> Just what kind of test pressure/conditions are you looking at? Is this a
   leak test, or for actually qualifying a maximum pressure/design pressure?    And concern for the pumps - why not take them out of the system/blind off -    I would assume they are pre-tested by the manufacturer?
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> George McKinney
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> On Oct 7, 2004, at 11:16 PM, RICK wrote:
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> > why not opt for pneumatic test? i think it`s much less cumbersome.
> And much more dangerous.
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