Hi Jack
I am expecting to do some work on a small WWTP upgrade in a few months, so would appreciate a little help with my silly questions in a few months or so. All I know about WW is to remember to put the seat back down, so should be fun.
Cheers
Steve
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From: Jack Osborn [mailto:jhosborn@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 6:21 AM
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Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] 3D CAD Piping Questions' Answers - Followup
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Hello Bruce, Paul, Chris, Steve, Robin et al....
I appreciate how everyone contributes to these postings; I've certainly learned alot about piping and piping support industries throught this site and have gotten a few laughs along the way as well. (Not to mention humbled a bit when I read what some of things Steve works on....) I work as a design engineer (mechanical) for a large water-wastewater consulting outfit and can speak a bit about our push towards 3D.
There are a few of us that are 3D competent and can provide working 2D drawings (I use Microstation), but the truth is....cutting the 3D models and extracting the 2D drawing planes is not a push button task. It takes almost as much work as it does to create the model....and if things change? All hell breaks loose.....The software we use is not quite there. But it does, as Bruce mentions, wow the clients - especially when they can take "fly thru" of a treatment plant. I guess eventually we can expect that contractors will use the 3D models at the construction site.... but don't hold your breath waiting for that day.
Jack
I still have to wonder about the true functionality of 3D at this time.
I recently completed a US$55 000 000 project where the entire project was done in 3D, and we had to render EVERYTHING in 2D for construction.
We couldn't find a contractor that would bid using 3D documentation, or
build using 3D. Some were willing to take the 3D and create their own 2Ds to do their work. BUT, it impressed the pants off of the client's senior management, for what it's worth.
... Bruce D. Bullough ...
Sebesta Blomberg & Associates, Inc.
2381 Rosegate
Roseville, MN 55113 USA
+ 651-634-7344
www.sebesta.com
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