Re: Management System related to Piping Design

From: <Geoff>
Date: Sun Dec 25 2005 - 21:28:00 EST


We have seen the light. QA systems are being binned in droves. The clerks (managers) who developed careers with QA are now unemployed. Boat loads are being exported to Canada as they are useless to us.

   We quite like Canadians Downunder especially if we can tease them about being Ameircans. You all look the same to us. We dont get many French speaking Canadians though. I suspect because of the Rainbow Warrior being blown up and testing nuclear bombs at Muraroa Attol by their European cousins has made them a little guilty. The Pacific is considered our back yard and if it is so safe go test in downtown Paris. Did I mention the French are number one on our hit list.

   Have a happy New Year.

   regards

   Geoff Stone

aluser2 <alwynk@shaw.ca> wrote:

   Dear geoff /chris,
canadians do love beaurocracy and managing everything. So many beaurocrats and they still "manage" to lose billions. (sorry i couldnt resist that - been a lot of those scandals lately) I'm sorry you got inflicted with the Z299 plague. (one of my favourite beefs- not the mad cow kind)
Please put it on the next plane back.
Many here have tried to cure the "head" problem with pot, at least the yanks think theyre all potheads up here and we're exporting terrorists and subversive drug culture into the states across the "leaky border" Two senators (one fr Omaha the other i forget) just last week repeated that the 911 terrorists came from,,, well i wont repeat it again. Remember they all had USA VISAS. Shortly we will also, so we'll officially all be terrorists..... not just mistaken for tourists. Put a fence along the border.... now theres a managers solution. So, geoff , Are they talking about a fence down there around Oz, you'd need a lot of QA on something like that. Think of the job creation... .. geez i hope no ones taking me seriously

To quote bucky, "I'm not ignorant, i dont even know what that means."

merry Xmas all.

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> Christopher Wright <chrisw@skypoint.com> wrote: Christopher said "Your
underlying assumption, that the management system in fact works, is hazy. Some work, some don't. Some address actual problems, others are conveniences to allow placing blame. Some are definitive, others are too vague to be useful. My personal experience is that systems which rely on procedural controls all have a fatal flaw: procedural controls are predictive; they assume that eventualities have all been foreseen--that the future is known."
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> Your point is so accurate Christopher, as usual.
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> We have been bedevilled by that Canadian invention Quality Assurance
(CZ299 I think). It is after all a management system. The tomes that inhibit shelves and libraries have cost forests. Who reads them? Occassionally a form is taken out of the back but then is revised because it doesnt actually do its job. They were often prepared by gurus who thought they knew how things should be done. In the end they are made so all embracing and loose so the management and company cant be pinged for not following them when there is an audit.
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> With the advent of economic rationalism engineering resources have
dwindled. We are now so efficient with our computers and software. This of course costs more per head , so management expect to decrease the number of heads. Partly to pay for the "thought police" (QA management).
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