Re: Digest Number 1727

From: <Grajo>
Date: Fri Jan 20 2006 - 10:42:00 EST


To : Ken

   Re: Schedule 40 pipes

   The sizes mentioned are not so common in Saudi Arabia. Normally, brands are second mention. Rather you ask for Japanese, Italian, Korean, etc. make. The last time I used sizes 200 mm up to 400 mm (about a year ago),. I had to return to the suppliers at least twice as they were rusted which the customer rejected at first sight. Most manufacturers are represented or at least carried by some suppliers here but they don't stock that many. I finally got my pipes from Dubai; unfortunately, I can not remember the name of the local supplier (Was it IMCO, Ali Al Nassar, Saudi Pan Gulf? Sorry, can't recall). Of course, you can always try Saudi Pipes.

   Will ask around and give you another feedback later.

   Hope this helps.

   Eustacio A. Grajo
   Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

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Topics in this digest:

  1. Re: Surge and Water Hammer From: Grajo Eustacio
  2. Re: Re: Surge and Water Hammer From: Christopher Wright
  3. Re: Difference between NACE and Non NACE From: constant george
  4. procurement of sch40 steel pipe From: "Ken Eppleston"

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:59:01 -0800 (PST) From: Grajo Eustacio
Subject: Re: Surge and Water Hammer

Gentlemen:
My line is air conditioning and in one project I was involved, the owner brought in an "expert" to verify the direction of airflows leaving the duct. He used a simulation technique called Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) which he claimed to be in use since the 70's. He also said that the computer simulation can be used on any fluid whether contained (as in pipes, tanks, etc.) or free flowing, with applicable parameters put in, of course. Has anyone used the technique in analyzing the current subject (surge/water hammer)? Comments, please.
Thanks.

Eustacio A. Grajo
Jeddah, Saudi Arabia



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:21:58 -0600
From: Christopher Wright
Subject: Re: Re: Surge and Water Hammer

On Jan 18, 2006, at 11:59 AM, Grajo Eustacio wrote:

> He used a simulation technique called Computational Fluid Dynamics
> (CFD) which he claimed to be in use since the 70's.
It was pretty crude and expensive back in the 70's, but these days it's fairly common. Try a Google on CFD and you'll get lots of hits.

The technique is a bit like FEA for structural work. It's not for amateurs any more than FEA is, but a reasonably skilled engineer can get answers of the kind you've described. Christopher Wright P.E. |"They couldn't hit an elephant at <a href="/group/PipingDesign/post?postID=BMsJqGTx_QMFpYWxbA_imaG-eus_PTLh5_crAPaMu6VYbSnFom6rTzuu8AU6WmZnn4Q1XCWHQIaj">chrisw@skypoint.com</a> | this distance" (last words of Gen.

.......................................| John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania
1864)
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:38:47 -0800 (PST) From: constant george
Subject: Re: Difference between NACE and Non NACE

NACE stands for National Association of Corrosion Engineers; you draw the conclusion from here. And don't forget Google or Yahoo or...

> Hai all,
>
> Could any one explain the diference between a Valve
> (without NACE) and
> Valve (MR 0715 NACE complied). Also difference
> between pipe API 5L Gr B
> (normal) and Pipe (API 5L Gr B Nace complied).
>
> What additional features or properties does a NACE
> copmplied material have ?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Regards
> Jijo
>
>
>



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 03:42:16 -0000
From: "Ken Eppleston"
Subject: procurement of sch40 steel pipe

Does anyone have any experiences or understand the difficulties in procuring schedule 40 steel pipe anywhere from 250mmID up to 1050mmID in the Middle East and surrounding regions?

Or know of any suppliers in this region who can supply reasonable quantities (of high quality) with relatively short lead times?

Is "extra strong" easier to procure than schedule 40?

Any tips are most welcomed or even contacts with manufacturers...

Regards
KE





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