Although there may not be a clear cut answer to who's the best one thing is
for sure. The best software in the world isn't worth squat if you don't
have anyone to run it. I consider myself a competent designer but get shut
out of jobs due to my lack of necessary experience on a specific software.
Given the evolution of the contract employee industry and the ongoing need
for people to become familiar and competent with the growing technology I
feel that companies will have to take chances on designers and drafters like
myself who can demonstrate adequately the ability to adapt to different
situations as well as software and disciplines. Companies somehow have the
misconception that once you get the training you will take it and run so to
speak. Little do they know that this kind of attitute will not only do harm
the companies in the long run but will hurt a lot of competent contractors
who could be working and making a living for their families and not just
sitting at home wondering when they'll get the call. If this ir rather
offensive or pushy to some people well so be it. It's the way I feel about
it.
> From: Paul Bowers <pbowers@PipingDesign.com>
>
> Companies that have invested heavily in expensive software solutions
> for piping design are reluctant to switch. Management can see the
> benefits of moving to a less expensive package, but users make the
> difference, obviously.
>
> As Mike pointed out, it's difficult to get trained on these systems
> and competent users are very well-paid. Someone who does piping design
> on a $100,000 workstation will likely be reluctant to "step down" to a
> "less prestigious" system.
>
> Not that they have much choice, but it becomes easy to slam the new
> program, complaining that it won't do what PDS/PDMS (or whatever) can
> do.
>
> That's a personnel issue, really, but if a lot of the knowledgeable
> piping people resist new software it can cause problems.
>
> I agree with what you wrote below, my point is that the implementation
> phase of new software is extremely important and the availability of
> enough good tech support people is critical.
>
> Paul
>
> Otto Weiberth wrote:
>
> > User-customizable software such as Rebis still has to rely
> > on a competent user base at the client, doesn't it? Wouldn't you
> > want a competent user base building plants? Are you saying that with
one of
> > the "Big Buck" systems, you can design a chemical plant with some
> > incompetent users? If that is so, I do NOT want one of those plants
built
> > in my state!!!!
> >
> > Rebis software is very customizable because the code is VBA,
> > not twenty year old propreitary code that you need expensive consultants
to
> > make a modifications. Everything is open code. That is the benefit. In
> > today's world, there are some very SHARP piping designers and I bet that
> > many of them may be on this site, and I am sure that they would want the
> > flexibility to customize, right?
>
> > Projects are clients driven and as a
> > engineering company, you NEED the flexibility to offer your clients a
> > project that meets their requirements, not limit it to the limitations
of
> > the software.
> > How many of the piping designers on the site either use or
> > have used AutoPLANT? I mean the new AutoPLANT 97, not the old AutoPLANT
> > software. The new AutoPLANT was released in Sept. of 1997 and it is
> > expotentially better than the old software.
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