Re: RE: TIRADE

I agree about 3D modelling, I like it. All disciplines have to be up to speed, though. In one case, "X" (upstream) department were doing their drawings in 2D, then having someone update the model afterwards. What we we seing in XREF was not the latest information. Sheesh.

Some clients insist on straight AutoCAD-based drawings so they can manipulate them later themselves (say, for minor upgrades, jumpovers, plant operator-requested additions, etc.) without having to learn a "complicated" piping package. In my original rant maybe I forgot to mention that it is these projects that I was referring to.

Jean, as-tu besoin d'un site web?

Paul

• Original Message ----- From: FILLION JEAN <ft-concept-3d@qc.aira.com> To: <PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 9:09 PM Subject: [PipingDesign] RE: TIRADE

> IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT WE ALL HAVE SOMETHING IN
COMMUN,...PROMPT
> CHARACTER.
>
> I'VE BEEN IN THE TRADE FOR THE PAST 27 YEARS, AND READING
YOUR EMAIL
> MAKE ME SMILE A BIT. I READED BOTH SIDE OF THE FENCE AND BOTH
SIDE HOLD
> A BIT OF TRUTH.
>
> FOR SURE I MISS THE BOARD AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TEAM, BUT
I GET
> TRILL TO SHOW THE KNOW HOW TO YOUNG ONE. EH... BE SERIOUS IF WE
DON'T
> WILL HAVE TO WORK TILL WE HAVE TO WEAR A DIAPER.
>
> OK I HAD NO CHOICE TO RUN FASTER THAN THE GREEN ONE TO PROVE
THE TO
> THE FIRM THAT I CAN STILL DESIGN EVEN IF THE TECHNOLOGY CHANGE,
BUT WHAT
> THE HELL, IT'S ANOTHER CHALLENGE IN LIFE.
>
> THE POINT IS MAINLY THAT IF WE USE THE CAD, NO MATTER WICH
PLATFORM
> WE OPPERATE ON, ONLY TO PRODUCE IMAGE, IT'S WORTH FUCK ALL. BUT
IF WE
> GET FULL ADVANTAGE OF IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR EXPERIENCE OF
THE
> BOARD, THAT'S WHERE WE GET FULL BENEFIT OF OUR DESIGN.
>
> JUST THE FACT OF WORKING IN FULL INTER-DISCIPLINARY 3D
MODEL. WERE
> ALL ENTITY ARE DRAWN ONLY ONCE AND ALL MODIFICATION ARE LIVE IN
REAL
> TIME, MAKE'S ME CREAM MY JEAN. I CAN COME BACK AT HOME AT NIGHT
WITH MY
> PORTABLE AND REVIEW THE DESIGN OF THE TEAM WITHOUT HAVING TO
CARRY A
> ROLL OF DRAWING UNDER MY HARM. I CAN EVEN SIT BACK A RELAX THE
NEXT
> DAY, SIPPING ON A BEER IN FRONT OF THE SCREEN AT HOME, AND
SENDING A
> BLOCK TO THE YOUNG ONE TO INSERT IN THE MODEL.
>
> SURE I MISS THE BOARD, BUT I DON'T MISS SPILLING COFEE OVER
THE
> ORIGINAL, NEITHER TO GET IT STOCK IN THE BLUEPRINT MACHINE AND
HAVING TO
> WORK ALL WEEKEND TO RETRACE IT. AND BESIDE I REALLY DON'T THINK
THAT
> NONE OF US CAN REVERSE THE MACHINE.
>
> BUT IF WE WORK TOGETHER, OLD TIMER AND YONG ONE WE CAN GET
THE JOB
> DONE THE RIGHT WAY.
>
> JEAN FILLION
> SENIOR PIPING DESIGNER
> F.T. CONCEPT
Received on Fri May 04 18:48:00 2001