but this is a piping forum. your source should be the one applying in piping industry. bella liptak may be a reliable process handbook, but in my book he does not count. by the way, our process guys are using ISA and Chiltons Process Handbook not counting old and reliable Perry's.
-----Original Message-----
From: HAFIZ [mailto:hafiz@bushnak.com]
Sent: 24 May, 2001 10:38 AM
To: alsharif@bushnak.com; PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com
Cc: saud@bushnak.com
Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] P&ID
I agree with Br. Sharaf. As per famous and reliable Instrument Engineer's Handbook for Process Control (Author:Bela Liptak) 3rd Edition, P&ID stands for "Process and Instrumentation Diagram"
Regards
Hafiz
.
> I think it makes much more sense to call it "Process and Instrmentation
> Diagram", than "Piping.." because, just like you said, it is like a PFD
plus
> the instrumentation. And it doesn't tell you enough about the piping
> (routing, supports, some of the fittings like elbows), while it
practically
> gives you a complete view of the process scheme. It is also done at an
early
> stage when much more is known about the process than the particular piping
> arrangement that will be used.
> What do you think?
>
> S.F. Al-Sharif
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: SARE, RALPH H. [mailto:SARERH@YANPET.SABIC.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:18 AM
> > To: 'PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: [PipingDesign] P&ID
> >
> >
> > the first is correct. Its piping and instrument diagrams (same term use
by
> > Becthel, FlourDaniel, ABB Lummus, etc who built our plant
> > complex). its the
> > diagram showing the flow, line and equipment number number,
> > normal process
> > condition and instrument setting. Its companion is PFD - process flow
> > diagram. its an overview of the process. Much like a P&ID minus the
> > instrumentation and spool number.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Goh Kenrick [mailto:kenrickgoh@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: 23 May, 2001 11:26 AM
> > To: PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PipingDesign] P&ID
> >
> >
> > What does P&ID stand for? From what I know and after refering to piping
> > handbook, it stand for piping and instrument Diagrams. But a
> > search on the
> > website, says that it stand for process and instrument diagram. Now I
am
> > all confused. Can someone out there tell me exactly what P&ID stand
for?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kenrick
> >
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