Re: Nozzle Loads for Eqpts

From: <Gordon.Reddek@Alcan.com>
Date: Thu Mar 25 2004 - 03:53:00 EST

Tushar,
Please be careful with this one. Each code is drawn up with a specific purpose in mind and the conditions in that code apply to that code only. You can not mix and match codes requirements to suit yourself. I do not want to embark on a big lecture here, but it is important that each code is seen in total isolation unless codes actually refer to each other and allow their cross use.
On the matter of nozzle loads: the pipe code concerns itself with stresses in the pipe, a pump code concerns itself with bending the pump sufficiently to misalign the shafts. The two requirements simply are not compatible. It may well be OK to occasionally stress the pipe to 50% above design or whatever, but it may not be OK to throw the alignment of the pump out of wack by 50% occasionally. If a pump code requires no more than a certain nozzle load then that is that, no arguments. I read the requirement as being the maximum load allowable under ALL conditions. And the same sort of logic should apply to vessel and other codes. You must satisfy the requirements of both codes at the interface and that generally means that you must err on the side of safety.

Regards,

Gordon Reddek

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25/03/2004 02:14 PM
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Friends,

Piping exerts some loads on the equipment nozzles. The allowable nozzle loads mentioned by any vessel or pump manufacturer are for design conditions of the eqpts.
Sometimes the loads at design conditions are within allowable, but they may
exceed at the occasional load cases like wind or seismic.

As per B31.3, we can use 33% higher allowable stress for piping. But the API codes for pumps etc do not mention any such factor. Is there any thumb rule or factor for occasional cases to analyse eqpt nozzle loads?

If we send these loads to the manufacturer, they will just approve those without any modification in the nozzle design. This mean there must be some
extra margin to cater for such cases. If anybody is aware, please enlighten
me on this.

Best Regards.

Tushar Zope
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