Whaaaa? You're an engineering-type guy, you're not supposed to have any depth of knowledge outside of technical stuff!
Get with the program, eh!
Paul
> Absolutely:
>
> A South African poet (Langenhooven)once wrote....because one is a
baboon,
> does one have to jump up on a table and show the whole world that he
is in
> fact, a baboon?
>
> Mike Waugh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Bowers [mailto:pbowers@pipingdesign.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 12:38 PM
> To: PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] New Current Interesting Link - Drawing on
> Experience
>
>
> Good post.
>
> The most important thing (in engineering and probably everywhere else)
> is to realize your limitations and not fall victim to the Peter
> Principle. Posturing, bafflegab and inflated egos have no place in
real
> engineering as far as I'm concerned.
>
> I could go on and on about this maybe later, to the dismay of many.
>
> Paul "sub-genius" Bowers
> --
> "The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy
like
> Norman Einstein," - Joe Theisman
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Waugh" <mike@waudesign.com>
> To: <PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 12:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] New Current Interesting Link - Drawing on
> Experience
>
>
> > Paul:
> >
> > I trust that the reverse is the case as well, ie an engineer does'nt
> become a CAD designer. Personally I can recall all too many occasions
> when engineers either did not undertake to perfom what was initially
> required, the engineering itself and chose instead to fling thier
ideas.
> Or, they were consistant in changing thier minds as to the
requirements
> during the eveloution of thier ideas. The result of this, it left
the
> CAD designer redrawing and redrawing the designs, to the eventual
> satisfaction of the engineer.
> >
> > The point I make, it is possible that the CAD designer is actually
> more tuned into the design than the engineer may be, qualifications
> aside? For example, I am a chemist by education. With a background in
> laboratory, quality, statistics, materials, process engineering, an
real
> world experience to back it up, I may be able to a make the case that
I
> have more in the way of knowledge of materials than many engineers may
> have. I would not distinguish in the first place, because I believe
> even specialties are limited and there are no gods in this respect.
> But, there is after all, a whole world in materials science that goes
> beyond statics, dynamics, kinematics and the physical world, etc. I
have
> been witness to engineers select the cheapest material and the wrong
> materials. And yep, they call themselves engineers.
> >
> > There are "human" factors that come into play here, such as egos
and
> what I would characterize as a superficial opinion that many engineers
> believe they are an upper class. This phenomenon carries over to the
job
> market, and I have seen many instances where an employer for example,
> wants a CAD designer with an engineering degree. Best of both worlds?
> The engineer may know his science, but his quest for engineering
> knowldge may have diminished his knowledge of CAD systems, or visa
> versa. The latter is critical and in my opinon, it eventually boils
down
> to the individual, and while even our "better" engineers in this
world,
> may have license to certify designs to the satisfaction of others,
> there is graveyard out there of failed designs, these can hardly be
> ignored should we really be seeking some truths in this matter.
> >
> > Mike Waugh
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Paul Bowers <pbowers@pipingdesign.com>
> > Sent: Apr 24, 2004 11:29 AM
> > To: PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PipingDesign] New Current Interesting Link - Drawing on
> Experience
> >
> > www.pipingdesign.com
> >
> > <<In the Mechanical Engineering Design supplement in March, Jean
> > Thilmany explored the idea that the advent of computer-aided design
> has
> > served to blur the distinction between engineering and what used to
be
> > drafting. That was a very perceptive article.
> >
> > Given the present state of software development, it takes a
> substantial
> > investment in time and training for anyone to become proficient with
a
> > solids modeling system. This gives the operator every right to
regard
> > himself as a professional, but it doesn't make him an engineer.>>
Received on Sat Apr 24 12:57:00 2004
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