Re: PDS and PDMS

From: <vornel>
Date: Thu Jan 13 2005 - 09:47:00 EST

Paul you speak to truth!

But I would like to clarify some points and in doing so I must let it be known that I do work for COADE so I want that to be taken into account by all that may be reading this post.

PDS are currently moving away from the Microstation platform and going to SmartPlant.

PDMS have never been on any generic (AutoCAD, Microstaion) platform but now have linked up with Autodesk to produce AutoCAD deliverables. This month at Daratech in Houston they will be showing their AutoCAD based P&ID product and for 2D deliverables from the 3D model they will be showing 'Final Designer' (I think that is what it is called) that will allow the creation of these deliverable and, as i understand it, provide some bi-directionality with the model.

I have heard the same information about the backward compatibility between SmartPlant and past PDS offerings. As for PDMS i would be very surprised if compatibility will be lost with older jobs - PDMS have always done a good job in that regard. Backward compatibility may not mean a lot to many people but could you imagine creating a plant in a system and then not being able to access any of the millions of $'s of design information that you have been investing in? This is a sin.

Bently offer PlantSpace that for the Microstation platform and AutoPLANT for the AutoCAD space. I did hear that these may be bundled as there are few seats of PlantSpace in the market space anyway. Maybe this will be a move to offer a Bentley Plant solution instead and remove focus from the plattform that they work on - but maybe those mambers of this forum that work for Bentley could comment on that.

You are right that because Rebis no longer exists then they no longer part of the Autodesk Developer Network (ADN). What this will mean short or long term only time will tell. Bentley have brilliant programmers. have lots of money and a loyal (& largest P&P) user base that they are still serving - so who knows.

A Bentley stumble? Are COADE (we) counting on this? Not really. We are just doing what we feel is best for the market. No one wins just because others fail. If a sprinter wins a 100m dash in 20 seconds because everyone else trips they should not have any pride in their achievement. Likewise we are producing what we feel is the best out there - we are not relying on others to falter - that is just a bonus.

Prices not showing them is the norm but COADE have posted our $ price on our web site for the last 3+ years.

Web sites to look at:

CADWorx from COADE www.coade.com
CADPIPE is from AEC Design Group www.cadpipe.com AutoPLANT and PlantSpace from Bentley www.bentley.com SmartPlant PDS from Intergraph www.intergraph.com PDMS VANTAGE from AVEVA www.aveva.com

If feels they need to correct anyting that I have said I would be glad to know of it so I can keep myself as current as posible.

Vornel

Received on Thu Jan 13 09:47:00 2005

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