Re: about surge

From: <Robin>
Date: Sun Jan 23 2005 - 19:36:00 EST

Steve, your too good for me by far, and funny.

Cheers,

Robin

>
> Hi Robin
>
> I am glad you realise me for what I am. My dog thinks I'm pretty smart
> too, but only when I am near the fridge.
>
> Yes, I can make water run uphill. came up with this thing that ? I call
> it a siphon. Having some difficulties with the patent office though.
> I your case, tell your client the solution is easy; just mount the
> reservoir on an elevator. No natural laws broken and no messy pumps. Not
> sure about the cost though.
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin Badcock [mailto:rbadcock@vision.net.au]
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 2:01 PM
> To: PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] about surge
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
> Your a Genius.
>
> I have this gravity pipeline that conveys water to a reservoir and the
> client has asked that he would like the water to run both ways. I said
> that I new of a bloke that could probably make water run up hills with
> out pumping!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Robin
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve McKenzie" <mechproj@xtra.co.nz>
> To: <PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 5:46 AM
> Subject: RE: [PipingDesign] about surge
>
>
> >
> > I am normally not one to split hairs, but couldn't resist this one:
> > Consider an air bell 10.3m below water level, with a (perfect) vacuum
>
> > pipe passing through it. Inside the air bell is a pressure gauge
> > connected to the pipe. What is the gauge pressure?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Steve
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Erik Scheir [mailto:erik.scheir@pandora.be]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:45 PM
> > To: PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PipingDesign] about surge
> >
> >
> >
> > I used this sofware perhaps even before you were born, but what has
> > that to do with te fact that -2 bar does nor exist on the earth. Try
> > to use Flowmaster its even better then impulse from AFT and you will
> > never see results with pressure nodes below 0 bar.
> >
> > Erik
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Van: gautam wayse [mailto:captain_wayse@yahoo.co.in]
> > Verzonden: zaterdag 15 januari 2005 9:30
> > Aan: PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com
> > Onderwerp: RE: [PipingDesign] about surge
> >
> >
> >
> > hi
> > friend
> > better to go for impulse software for surge analysis
> > .from applied flow technology,.
> > use --- Erik Scheir <erik.scheir@pandora.be> wrote:
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > What do you mean with - 2 bar? Is it barg?
> > The absolute vacum is - 1 barg or 0 bara, so - 2bar
> > doesn't exsist.
> >
> > erik
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Omid Hamlehdar [mailto:omid_7_ae@yahoo.com]
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 11 januari 2005 7:19
> > Aan: PipingDesign@yahoogroups.com
> > CC: mechproj@xtra.co.nz; erik.scheir@pandora.be
> > Onderwerp: [PipingDesign] about surge
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a project for water handling, a pipeline with
> > 100 km length, I am
> > studying about surge in it according to a probable
> > rapture in pipe and I am
> > going to close two valves surrounding rapture point to
> > avoid wasting water
> > and to find out about surge cause by closing valves.
> >
> > Any body has experience in this regards? How shall we
> > protect our system?
> >
> > I have heard from Erhard valve, they recommend a valve
> > called "pipe burst
> > control valve" to avoid wasting water when there is a rapture, this
> > valve will be closed in around 2 min and this will cause
> > surge in system, in some
> > point we have -2 bar minimum pressure. I know that you
> > may need to know
> > about the profile but generally I would like to know
> > how shall we suppress
> > this surge?
> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> >
> >
> > Omid
> >
> >
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