I also agree with Umesh.... naive questioners come in every walk of life. Some of them might not speak or write english well enough to ask questions in a manner that can convey both their lack of experience and the deference we might expect from a newbie. But brow-beating each and every questioner for an ill-phrased question seems heavy handed. (But boy... do we like to do it! <grin>)
Many thanks to those on the list that have the patience and good will to answer them ( Dr. Abhyankar, Steve, Umesh.....and others....) As for me, the "delete" key is one of my favorites....<smile> As Yogi Berra might have said....you know what you know.....I hope you'll give thanks for the opportunities that you've had to gain your experience. My intention here is not to start a ruckus, ...I mean no offense to anyone. It's just that we have global a group of members....we should take pride in that, but also remember our differences......
Jack
I agree with Umesh on some points.
If we consider ourselves experienced enough, then our responsibility is to mentor fresher and encourage them to learn new things. Can this group be a mentoring platform ? I leave it to the group
Regards,
Ranjeet
"umesh k.n." <umesh_kn@yahoo. com>
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Bruce & other who wrote similer mails,
Why you guys are so hard on a fresher..Do you guys know a conept called
"advise"?
Your son/daughter will ask you the same when he/she has no clue about
something.
What people in forum has to do is...either give advise..or shut up
considering the question is too lame...someone else will answer..
However lame question it may be, it is not a stupid question...Seeking advise is good thing rather than taking bad decessions. Dont try to dishearten a fresher...
& Bruce...
Dont conclude anything by one mail....even in life..dont do such a thing..
Also he is seeking advise to prepare for his job...thats really good
thing..how maany people do that ?
Also he said he is going to design field...he did not say that right away
he is starting designing a Rocket...
Everyone starts as a fresher...Do you think no one enters design field as
a fresher...
Only thing is a fresher will get a very premitive design jobs under
guidence...
For other...
I repete....
What people in forum has to do is...either give adviseor answer..or SHUTUP
considering the question is too lame...someone else will answer..
Rgs,
Umesh Ken.,Senior Piping Specification Engineer, Alcan Engineering Pty. Ltd., Brisbane, QLD, Australia
Favorite saying:
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that
matter"? ........... Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr
Shankar:
Based on your questions, I conclude that you did not select mechanical engineering as your major in school, but someone else did. Or you selected it because it was something you could do to earn a decent living,
but you have no passion or greate desire. Therefore, since you are asking others to select your field, anything will do, as it is not important to you which one is best for you.
The "homework" you need to do is to kindly ask mechanics, welders, pipefitters and/or millwrights if they will allow you to follow them around as they do their jobs and tell you what they are doing, and what stupid design mistakes to avoid. If they develop a trust in you, consider asking them if they will allow you to carry their tools for them, and then
later learn to use some basic tools.
By the way, I would NEVER hire a new graduate to do design work, unless he
was a craftsman before he went to school. I would consider hiring a new grad to do drafting, and then, if he showed promise, send him to maintenance or construction for a few years to learn from craftsman.
... Bruce D. Bullough ...
Lead Process Engineer
Foth Production Systems, LLC
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Hello friends,
This is shankar from final year student of mechanical engineering branch.
Recently i got placed in campus interview in a design based company. Later
i got details that the company works on piping and process design works. As u guys friends of mine has to give me suggestion about the following things.
please guys give me suggestions for these. as i require to cope up with design field.
urs friendly,
shankar.
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