Re: [PipingDesign] ISO 9001 and CAD

No, Mike, you get the first Gold Star I've ever given out and thanks for the well-stated comments.

That and ten dollars gets you a Starbucks Double Half Caf Semi-Sweet Expresso Demi Hotshot. Enjoy and make sure to tip the Barista.

Let's see if any other members care about the presentation of deliverables before I start ranting wildly again and pissing-off the other thousand or so people that supposedly read this list.

I mean, really, our business is one where legible documents have to be provided so that real, live people can fabricate and install heavy pieces.

Not every company has the resources to be compliant to ISO requirements and even those who do often take a lax attitude towards it because it is just a "stamp of approval" used to get projects.

I'm just guessing, but I surmise that software companies don't have to adhere to very many standards. If you look at the EULAs of most packages you'd be surprised at what they are not responsible for.

Whoops, there go my hopes to be sponsored by any big league players.

Paul

Michael Roble wrote:
> Hey Paul.
>
> The company I previously worked for on two different occasions, for a total
> of 9 years had gotten ISO 9001 certified many years back. I remember them
> going through all kinds of hoops for like 4-5 months preparing for audits
> and all that. Me, being the Applications Drafter asked them repeatedly what
> they needed from me since I was the ONLY drafter in that department. They
> kept telling me they needed nothing. Time came and went, we got certified, I
> never had to turn anything in, I never gotten audited (and we were getting
> audited internally like every 3 months, and ISO audited randomly, roughly
> every 9-10 months.
>
> I can only assume they provided our drafting standards for the ISO
> certification and attached an "exception" to it, stating "but our standards
> may vary based on client specifications" or something along those lines.
>
> You know, I take back my statement about never being approached, once on an
> internal audit, they asked me about where I saved my files on the network,
> who I turned hardcopies to, and he eyeballed my cubicle to make sure I had
> "FOR REFENCE ONLY" stamped in red on any charts, graphs or sample drawings
> on my desk (which wasn't many).
>
> As far as the people there doing P&ID's now go, I know their standards
> haven't changed, but the designers in the Projects group have since gone to
> using AutoPlant instead of standard AutoCAD, so they're doing all 3D now and
> NEVER do 2D anymore. So those guys' standards have definitely changed and
> from what I have heard it was a seamless transition.
>
> And as for the deliverables, we send them CAD files for the job I'm working
> on now since they have an engineering building on site, so they print out as
> needed, but if we ever have to turn hardcopies over, they're always 24x36.
>
> Whew.you're not going to banish me now. J
Received on Sat Apr 19 11:10:00 2008