Re: Small Bore Pipe Bending and Shop Fab

From: <Aaron>
Date: Fri May 16 2008 - 12:19:00 EDT

 Shop fab, bending, socket weld vs butt weld are producability and cost savings measures which will apply to any piping system as long as they are done within the requirements.
I never claimed it was complicated, but water (of some form from super heated steam to sewage) and fuel/lube/hyd oils are the typically normal fluids.

Aaron Taylor wrote:
> I work in the Marine industry and bending small bore pipe is very common. US
Navy standards allow 5D bends without question. Any radius less than that has to go through a qualified procedure and rigid QA inspection. If you utilize 5D bends, I would not worry about wall thinning and deformation of pipe (piping can become oval or the inside of the bend can develop ripples). It saves the material cost of fittings, the welding and fitting of additional joints, and reduces the number of joints that can fail. It also reduces the possibility of crevice corrosion and the chance of having a bad fit up of a socket weld fitting (too deep can cause high stress in the joint once welded). It has been my experience that piping fabbed in a shop costs 10 times less than piping stick built on site. Typically this is due to proximity of material and tools in the shop. We always had welding lines and torches within 20 feet in a shop, but you may have to search for one in
> the field. Material was stored in the shop, where on site there is typically a
material lay down area that is centralized, so no doubt when you get further away from it, it takes longer to retrieve material.

But with sub/ship work the process fluid is likely to be water only, no?

I always find it a bit amusing when the marine/offshore gang describes their work as "complicated" when they only have 10-15 process fluids to deal with.

Paul

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