RE: Quick Question

From: <Otto>
Date: Sun Oct 10 1999 - 13:02:00 EDT

Paul,

Please see embedded below.

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		 From: Paul Bowers [mailto:pbowers@PipingDesign.com]
		 Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 9:45 PM
		 To: <a href="/group/PipingDesign/post?postID=De-WyhQyk4GWhDVvptBlDbGbK4qc2w0Pzym4GCjt8WG0Pukt0iZ1blrQf_v-nQINpK2vsoN0POaplrs1Zqs">PipingDesign@onelist.com</a>
		 Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] Quick Question

		 From: Paul Bowers <pbowers@PipingDesign.com>

		 Mike & Lorna O'Donnell wrote:



		 > I have been using the Rebis packages since the days of EDA

(Otto will know


		 > what I'm talking about).  Some people might think

otherwise but I personally


		 > think that these are the best packages for versatility.


		 "Versatility" can have its own problems, though. With the
more
		 expensive packages, most everything is already worked-out,
and the
		 problems that *do* exist are well-known by management ahead

of time.

                 User-customizable software such as Rebis still has to rely on a

                 competent user base at the client, doesn't it? Wouldn't you want a competent user base building plants? Are you saying that with one of the "Big Buck" systems, you can design a chemical plant with some incompetent users? If that is so, I do NOT want one of those plants built in my state!!!!

                 Rebis software is very customizable because the code is VBA, not twenty year old propreitary code that you need expensive consultants to make a modifications. Everything is open code. That is the benefit. In today's world, there are some very SHARP piping designers and I bet that many of them may be on this site, and I am sure that they would want the flexibility to customize, right?

		 Or offer a really
		 expensive on-site consultant who may or may not have an
immediate
		 solution to a problem.  Projects are clients driven and as a

engineering company, you NEED the flexibility to offer your clients a project that meets their requirements, not limit it to the limitations of the software.

                 I've used Autoplant 97, and it's pretty good. Got bugs, but pretty

                 good. All software has bugs!! If there are no bugs "perceived", it typically means that it is old software and there are many work arounds identified. However, it is on it's way to extinction. "NO PAIN, NO GAIN".                  How many of the piping designers on the site either use or have used AutoPLANT? I mean the new AutoPLANT 97, not the old AutoPLANT software. The new AutoPLANT was released in Sept. of 1997 and it is expotentially better than the old software.

                 Given Moore's Law

<http://www.salonmagazine.com/21st/rose/1997/10/02straight.html>, it

                 should only get better. How it gets there is up to the users.

                 Just my opinion,

		 Paul
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