RE: Iso Production and Checking

From: <Otto>
Date: Sun Oct 24 1999 - 14:42:00 EDT

See embedded.

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		 From: Paul Bowers [mailto:pbowers@PipingDesign.com]
		 Sent: Friday, October 22, 1999 10:39 PM
		 To: <a href="/group/PipingDesign/post?postID=HX1p6jaqxw6xpWnTaqK6pklRFnx209JONffhhzA_3b5B_gYJPQfiaL9PNiDoy599n1pBvoGQ_x4ndpo2nJeC">PipingDesign@onelist.com</a>
		 Subject: Re: [PipingDesign] Iso Production and

Checking

                 From: Paul Bowers <pbowers@PipingDesign.com>

                 Mike & Lorna O'Donnell wrote:

> I think you have to check the iso to a certain extent.
Granted you should

> get what you model, there are times that you may not have
a setting

> configured correctly, or a description just not quite
right, or (God forbid)

> A MISTAKE!!!!!!!!
                 That's kind of my point: the system has to be properly set up in the

                 first place, with users that are clued-into how everything works.

> Pipers don't usually make those but there are those rare
occasions. I think

> checking should not be abandoned, but the checking should
not take as much

> time as it did in the past. You shouldn't assume
anything. Assumption

> could get you in trouble real quick.

                 Agreed, but with "magic software that will reduce costs by X percent",

                 management does not always do a proper analysis of how things are

                 supposed to work, they sometimes only see the promised bottom line. If

                 you combine this limited point of view with a "universally-understood"

                 attitude of, "Oh, well, next time the software will be able to fix

                 that", problems happen and sometimes propagate. We don't want computer

		 programmers doing piping design, do we?
		 AGREED!!   That would be a problem.  However, there are

programs that were developed by computer programers working in conjunction with piping designers. As Mike & Lorna know, Rebis certainly was developed that way. Although Rebis has a great ISO program, the bottom line is that it is a TOOL and tools can reduce costs IF they are used properly and the person using it knows how to use it. Tools are not meant to replace piping designers. To get the most out of any tool, a user must be properly trained how to use it and what the capabilties are. Too many times companies invest in tools and not in their people. As a result, only up to 20% of the total potential of the tool is ever used.

                 Paul

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Received on Sun Oct 24 14:42:00 1999